ON WISDOM Podcast – Episode 28: Pandemic Happiness (with Sonja Lyubomirsky)

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The On Wisdom podcast features a social-cognitive scientist in Toronto and an educator in London discussing the latest empirical science regarding the nature of wisdom. Igor Grossmann runs the Wisdom & Culture Lab at the University of Waterloo in Canada. Charles Cassidy runs the Evidence-Based Wisdom project in London, UK. The podcast thrives on a diet of freewheeling conversation on wisdom and decision-making, and includes regular guests spots with leading behavioural scientists from the field of wisdom research and beyond. Welcome to The On Wisdom Podcast.


Is happiness research even relevant in such times of crisis, or is focusing on our happiness simply a luxury we can no longer afford?

And, while effective for many people, why does the cultivation of gratitude sometimes result in unexpectedly negative consequences? 

Distinguished Professor and Vice Chair of Psychology at the University of California, Riverside Sonja Lyubomirsky joins Igor and Charles to discuss the key components of happiness, lessons from 9-11, ‘happiness-intervention fit’, Mother Teresa’s dark side, and the unexpected psychological impact of the global pandemic to date. Igor reflects on life-under-lockdown vs life in the downfall of the Soviet Union, Sonja discusses the subtle art of balancing optimism with positive action, and Charles learns that when it comes to counting one’s blessings, it pays not to count too high.

Welcome to Episode 28.

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One thought on “ON WISDOM Podcast – Episode 28: Pandemic Happiness (with Sonja Lyubomirsky)

    tom lombardo said:
    May 12, 2020 at 2:36 pm

    Hello Charles,

    Thanks. I am listening to it. Sunny in Oregon? You should write something in to the Wisdom Page group with your thoughts on wisdom.



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